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Following is some comment from Yochanan Mascaro on the email sent earlier today as ETI Informal pdf 1AD.04.07.16 "Feedback re -- An Important Analysis of Who Yahooshua Actually Is"
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From: Yochanan Mascaro
To: james@etimin.org
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ETI Informal pdf 1AD.04.07.16] Feedback re -- An Important Analysis of Who Yahooshua Actually Is
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Hi James
In a sense I am now more confused that ever about your teachings and reasoning regarding the person and character of Jesus. If you are correct that Jesus is not the Son of the Father and not part of the trinity, it merely implies that Jesus was just lucky enough to be chosen as the foetus (another human being) to be fully anointed by the Spirit of God to enable Him not to sin.
Yochanan Mascaro comment: Yahshua IS the Son of Elohim (and thus The Son of Yahweh) but I Xtians tend to disregard Torah (and the rest of Tanak - Law, Prophets, The Writing) they come to philosopical and sometimes even mytholigical conclusions about what that expression means rather than simply looking at the scriptures for definitions of terms. Yahshua is in a critical sense The Son of Elohim because he needs to be so. Why? Because he is the first "one new man"- who takes the sin away from the world. What world and what sin? Gan eden (garden of eden) and the fall of man of Beresheit/Gen chapter 3 for starters. This is why Yahshua is termed 'the new Adom" a.k.a. The Son of Man (a direct Hebraic reference to his humanity and that he is the NEW ADOM - Daniel 7). Scripture says that to those to whom Dvar YHWH comes these shall be called sons of Elohim. Yahshua used that position against the Perushim (pharisees) who seemed to have forgotten that point. Yahshua did not claim to be Father YHWH, he claimed to be The Son of Elohim and he justified that role using this very foundational scripture. Yochanan/John 10:34 using Tehillim/Psalms 82:6. There are other foundational examples of this principle whereby YHWH "makes " others as unto elohim/gods to another person for specific reasons: see Shemot/Ex. 4:16;7:1. Tehillim/Psalms 138:1 (clearly thhere it cannot mean real false "gods" as there I any but rather true worshippers of YHWH in spirit and in truth). Sons of Elohim are thus all who do the will of YHWH (His rules: Torah). See Hoshea 1:10; Matt 5:9; Yochanan /John 1:12; Romans 8:14,16,19,21;9:26Phil 2:15; 1 Yoch/John 3:1-2; 2 Cor 6:18; Gal 3:26,29; Rev 21:7. It means true Yisraelites - spiritual and also physical (because we are not spirit only beings!) who seek only the things of YHWH. Yahshua was first and foremost Son of Elohim because of his "begetting" his "only begotten" origins and status - brought forth supernaturally of the Father rather than being born of relations between men and women. Tehillim/Psalms 2:2,7; Yeshayahu/Isaiah 11:2;61:1. But the reason he is called THE (i.e., unique) Son of Elohim is the same - yet more so because of his perfect obedience to Abba's Torah - which is why he's unique (i.e., alef-tav). It is also the speciall appelation given to The Messiah. Luke 22:70.
This leads to the other logical conclusion that Jesus was in fact just another "super" human being such as other greats like John the Baptist, apostle Paul, Ghandi, Mohammed, etc. If one takes this argument a step further with regards to salvation, it means that God was dependant upon a "good" / fully obedient human being (sinless "robot") to help Him present a credible sacrifice for the atonement of sin. Therefore salvation is partly based upon man giving God a helping hand. This leads me to conclude that the sacrifice that God provides wasn't a supreme act of love and grace, but rather a co-production with another semi-god, namely a sinless man called Jesus.
Yochanan Mascaro comment: Not another super human being, he IS Mashiach/Messiah, ben ha-elohim i.e., The Son of Elohim and uniquely so I of his perfect obedience - unlike those others you are alluding to, he IS thus ben YHWH i.e., The Son of YHWH, YHWH being the only ONE TRUE ELOHIM and Father (with Father implying the only ONE who creates and begets and makes things happen). Yochanan/John 5:44; 6:27; 17:3 Eph 1:3. Ghandi indeed did follow YHWHs Torah perhaps without knowing it but certainly not all of it, Mohammad clearly did not if you know his true background so these are false examples you present. Yochanan hamatbil (John the baprtist) and rav Shaul (Paul) clealry obeyed Torah but not perfectly (see Rav Shaul;'s own admissions about persecuting beleivers and John's admission that it is Yahshua who should be baptrising him etc. So again these are bad examples on your part and do not make your point stronger at all. As to "dependence upon man" please recall that Yahshua did not obey YHWH his Father/his Elohim (God) like a robot as you claim. He was in all things tempted you seem to forget. YHWH cannot be tempted but men can be. And they then make the choice to obey or disobey. So again that is a bad example and does not support your point at all. The requirement under Torah for redemnption from sin is blood. And that b,ood must be sptoless i.e., sinless i.e,, Torah obedient and clean (kosher). It must NOT be blood of a deity as James correctly pointa out as that violates Torah in countless other ways. The perfection of the blood required comes from obedience to YHWHs instructions and its meekness, humility, love, mercy, kindness, lack of strife and aggression etc. This is why Yahshua is likened to a little lamb led to a slaughter. He is not likened to Zeus the mighty false deity of the Greeks led to slaughter on our behalf! So again your point here is gone astray - possibly (and respectfully) you err because you lack foundation in the scriptures that Yahshua followed namely the Torah and prophets and Psalms and other writings. But so have all we gone astray so thankfully we have Yahshua! The grace involved in this process was that knowing that YHWH at the appointed time (moed) in the fullness of time Gal 4:4 maniested His son in the flesh for us - one who would not disopbey him willingly - that YHWH would ALLOW him to nevertheless die for us and serve as our spoteless atonement I we could not bring that blood. That is the grace and mercy and lovingkindnmess that YHWH bestows in this mighty act on the part of Yahshua. It does not therefore violate the scriptures of Yochanan /John 3:16 etc. it actually more properly fulfills them.
Further more, all the other religions that deny Jesus as the Son of God are then also correct and all the conventional Christian teachings are a farce, as proposed by Judaism (refer Yochanan Mascaro's letter).
Yochanan Mascaro comment: First off - Yahshua is The Messiah who's blood we need for atonement. He is also now (post resurrection) seated at the right hand of The Father in hashamayim (the heavens). My point about false teachings is simply the same point made by scripture itself. [See many of my prior email scripture citations to support that]. In case my point was missed however - my point is that Xtian teachings and Judaism's teachings are a farce so long as they are not grounded in the scriptures but are mere traditions of men or vain philosophy and mythology passing for truth. The sad reality is that Xtians and traditional Jews often say with their lips that they follow scripture, yet their actions do not support their words. They pay more reverence to man-made doctrines and traditions of men and pet customs. The same was true in Yahshua's day. Yahshua asked us: "Nevertheless when The Son of Man comes (an earthly Messiah reference), will he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8. This means will man be following Torah or not? Because he will be avenging the unrighteous i.e., sinners i.e., breakers of Torah since sin is transgression of Torah Yochanan 1:34; 2:1-5. Will they believe on him having been sent by YHWh (as Torah cokamnds Debarim/Deut 18:15,18 and elsewhere) or will they not. I know in the spirit that when yahshua returns, most things will still be the same or worse than at his first manifestation. This is why he comes in judgment the second time as a lion and no longer as a lamb. Shalom aleichem. peace be unto you.
If I have missed the crux of your reasoning regarding Jesus, please correct me.
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