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From: James R @ ETIMin [mailto:james@etimin.org]
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Greetings

 

Another challenging teaching for consideration.

 

Warm regards and blessings

James

 

James Robertson

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From: Easton [mailto:geaston@telkomsa.net]
Sent: 25 December 2005 05:43 PM
To: james@etimin.org
Subject: The Scribes contributed to 2 Thessalonians 2

 

The Scribes contributed to 2 Thessalonians 2: 4

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2: 4

 

“Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called the Almighty [YHWH], or that is worshipped; so that he as the Almighty sits in the temple of the Almighty, showing himself that he is the Almighty [YHWH].”

 

Who is this person that is worshipped?

 

His description follows.

 

2 Thssalonians 2: 3

 

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”

 

Have we been warned in the Scriptures about this man?

 

Yes!

 

Yochanan [John] 5: 43.

 

“I am come in My Father’s Name, and you do not receive Me: if another [saviour] shall come in his own name, him you will receive.”

 

Will people be deceived by signs and wonders and by whose power?

 

Yes!

 

2 Thessalonians 2: 10.

 

“And him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.”

 

Are we warned about this deception of righteousness, and the ministers who will serve his purposes?

 

Yes!

 

2 Corinthians 11: 13 – 15.

 

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of the Messiah. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

 

Comment – HalleluYah!

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Will the majority of people in the world accept this deception?

 

Yes, because we are told in 2 Thessalonians 2: 10, “they did not love the truth.”

 

Revelation 12: 9.

 

“And the great dragon was caste out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was caste out into the earth, and his angels were caste out with him.”

 

How did the modern day scribes assist in the above deception and dethrone the Heavenly Father?

 

They incorrectly translated the Scriptures by leaving out some important words?

 

Read Yochanan [John] 1: 1, in any translation of the Scriptures and you will read as follows:-

 

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was God.”

 

Now ask the Christian the following questions:-

 

In the beginning was God. Who is He? Most will say, the Creator or God the Father.

Who is the Word? They will answer, Jesus.

 

One cannot blame them for the following deduction due to the translation.

 

“In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word [Jesus] was with God [The Father], and the Word [Jesus] was God [The Father].”

 

Therefore Jesus is God the Father. There is even a book entitled, “Heaven was empty for 33 years.”

 

This Resulted in the deception of 2 Thessalonians 2: 4“The son of perdition calling himself the Father.”

 

Let us now look at the Greek of Yochanan [John] 1: 1.

 

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Έν˙˙άρχή˙˙ήν˙˙ό˙˙λόγος˙˙καί˙˙˙˙λγος˙˙ήν˙˙πρός˙˙τόν˙˙θεόν˙˙καί

In[the] beginning was the   Word     and the       Word       was with          THE    Theos      and

 

  2316    2258           3056        3778    2258    1722      746         4314        VIP      2316        3956

θεός˙˙ήν˙˙ό˙˙λόγος˙˙ούτος˙˙ήν˙˙εν˙˙αρχη˙˙πρός˙˙τόν˙˙θεόν˙˙παντα

Theos   was   the      Word       This one was in the beginning      with        THE     Theos     All things

 

Let us translate it as stands but not leaving anything out.

 

 

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“In the beginning was the Word [Yahushua] and the Word [Yahushua] was with THE  Almighty One [YHWH] and a Mighty one was the Word [Yahushua]  and This One was in the beginning with THE Almighty One [YHWH].”

 

Yahushua is a Mighty One, Elohim. [ without the designation – τον ]

 

The Heavenly Father, is The Mighty One, Ha Elohim. [ with the – τον ]

 

Facts

 

[1]        Yahushua the Messiah has risen and sits on the right hand of His Father. Ephesians 1: 20 ; Colossians 3: 1, just to name a couple.

 

[2]        Yahushua always put His Father above Himself. Mark 13: 32 ;  Yochanan [John] 14: 28, “For My Father is greater than I.” and many others.

 

[3]        Who taught Yahushua? Yochanan [John] 8: 28, “My Father hath taught Me.”

 

[4]        The Heavenly Father YHWH and His Son Yahushua are One. Yochanan [John] 10: 30, “I and My father are One.”

 

How does one understand this last statement?

 

Ephesians 4: 4, “There is one body and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling.”

Ephesians 5: 31, “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.”

Philippians 1: 27. “---stand fast in one Spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the Good news.”

 

Total unity, in mind, in thought, in resolve, in Spirit, in intention.

 

Even in Yahushua’s darkest moment, He only wanted His Father’s will to be done.

Matt 26: 42. “O My father, if this cup may not pass away from Me, except I drink it, Thy will be done.”

 

                                                           

Amein

 

 

P.S. Can you now identify the son of perdition who calls himself the Almighty?